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Dissecting the first trailer of Movie #2 on  Riddles in the Dark!

The first trailer for The Hobbit: Desolation of Smaug was released at 1 pm Eastern time on Tuesday June 11, and the Riddles in the Dark co-hosts convened within hours to discuss it. The result: Nearly three hours to go through a two-minute trailer.

If you want to just listen to the audio, you can download it here: .mp3 (right click and choose “Save As…” to download). Some conversation may be challenging to follow. Still, there is plenty of conjecture for you to ponder!

This is a riddle-less episode

  1. Caitlin June 15, 2013 at 1:57 pm #

    I’m having issues with this. It took forever to download and only the first, like, minute worked. Any way you could post this on youtube?

  2. shaun June 15, 2013 at 3:17 pm #

    I’m also having problems. It plays until approx 2 minutes and then the timer continues but there is no sound or video.

  3. S.N.Legard June 15, 2013 at 4:11 pm #

    Agreed. Youtube or an alternate audio version would be much appreciated. I know it’s extra work, but might help on the website demand. My download time estimate is clocking at 54 days …

  4. Trish June 15, 2013 at 5:00 pm #

    No worries. An audio version is being uploaded right now to replace the video, and it will be available as soon as possible.

  5. Murray June 17, 2013 at 11:30 am #

    My download of the audio mp3 works fine until it ends after just 5 1/2 minutes.

  6. Murray June 18, 2013 at 8:15 am #

    I was finally able to listen to the whole thing once it went up on YouTube. A couple of points:

    Thanks Dave for pushing back on the fealty thing. At no point did Thranduil swear fealty to the King Under the Mountain. Did not happen.

    Re the Laketown guards’ helmets, if you google ‘Muscovite’ or ‘Tatar’ (the proper term for ‘Tartar’) armor you will see several depictions of helmets that look almost exactly like these. I’m sure the designers went for this eastern look on purpose, so the mockery should cease. It diminishes the overall standing of the discussion.

    PS Laura’s comments are good, which she can get a word in.

  7. Trish June 18, 2013 at 1:02 pm #

    Yes, Laura always has excellent insights to share. Fortunately, she CAN get a word in on the RITD Digests.

  8. Duane Watson June 19, 2013 at 1:19 pm #

    I’ve been thinking about the Azog/Bolg thing, and here’s an idea. My impression from the first film is that Azog is not the leader of all of the Orcs of the Misty Mountains; he seems to be operating as an independent entity. Something about the way the Great Goblin refers to him simply as “the Pale Orc” suggests that Azog is not an overlord, and from what we’ve seen, Azog leads only his elite warg riders. In fact, Balin states that Azog is “a Gundabad orc,” but not their king.

    I can see it as possible that Bolg has assumed leadership of the Gundabad orcs while his father has been pursuing his vendetta against Thorin, and with the power vacuum left by the death of the Great Goblin, the Orcs of the Misty Mountains will rally behind Bolg in their attack on the Lonely Mountain. In that case, we could see both Azog and Bolg at the Battle of Five Armies, and both can get the climactic deaths they deserve.

  9. Trish June 19, 2013 at 1:50 pm #

    You must be psychic! Laura and I just recorded Digest 2.07, which focuses on the Bolg riddle and overall Bolg issue, and we talked about something very like this. That is, that Azog is operating as an independent entity, while Bolg may be a “general” under Sauron’s command. The Digest should be available here and on iTunes within a week.

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